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Subj: Hair test results
Date: 5/20/00 12:42:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: nickandjoann@yahoo.com (Nick Saccomanno)
To: bu007@aol.com

Dear John,
To recap, this is what I was taking from April 24th
when I took the test on 5/12:
Calcium about 3,000mg and Mag about 3,800mg
Boron 6 mg.
Chromium-200mcg.
Copper 12mg. Iron-27 mg
Selenium-1,000mcg Silicon- as directed
B1-200mg B2-200 mg. B3-25 mg
B5-500mg and B12-100 mg

Here's what my hair analysis reports (5/12):
King James Laboratory


Essential Elements 
Hair Value Reference Range

Calcium 1316 200 - 750
Magnesium 140.2 25 - 115
Zinc 153 100 - 250
Copper 8.5 12 - 35
Chromium .11 .2 - .5
Lead (below detection) .07 < 3.0
Mercury " .15 < .6
Cadmium " .05 < .2
Arsenic 1.53 < 2.0
Nickel .19 < .5
Sodium 30 10 - 50
Potassium 23.8 2 - 28
Selenium 2.3 1 - 3
Manganese .26 .1 - 1.3
Aluminum 3.61 < 8.0
Cobalt .10 .1 - .5
Iron 8.4 3 - 15
Lithium .05 .1 -.8
Molybdenum (below det) .06 .1 - 1.0
Phosphorous 128 100 - 170
Vanadium (below det.) .02 .1 - .5
Germanium (below det) .08 .1 - 5.0

Hair Element Ratios
Elements Cal. Ratio Optimum Midline

Ca:mg 9:1 7:1
Ca:P 10:1 4:1
Ca:Pb 8800:1 679:1
Na:K 1.3:1 2.0:1
Mg:K 5.9:1 4.7:1
Fe:Al 2.3:1 .6:1
Zn:Cu 18:1 7:1
Zn:Mn 596:1 250:1
Zn:Se 68:1 88:1
Zn:Pb 2188.6:1 250.0:1
Zn:Ca 3064.0:1 4375.0:1
Se:Hg 15.0:1 100.0:1 

Since 5/20 I have added the following:
Biotin 600 mg.
Chol 200mg and Insol 500mg
Paba 200 mg
Collodial Silver: 5 drops
I've also cut my CalMag to about 1500 Cal to 2000 Mag,
is that too low?
I couldn't find the molybedenum, any suggestions?

What does this all mean? Please translate and let me
know how I could improve.
Many thanks,
Joann.


Hi Joann,
Calcium and magnesium nearly always show up high for those with thyroid disease, so don't be concerned about those high levels. You still need to supplement these.
Your copper is low as expected and you're taking an adequate amount now. Chromium is also low. You could experiment with taking 400 mcg to see if that helps any more than 200 mcg.
You're low in molybdenum and lithium and these two minerals seem important in copper metabolism. You could take a molybdenum supplement and that might assist your copper buildup (don't take very much molybdenum because too much can deplete copper--500 mcg every other day is good).
Besides these things, everything looks pretty good. Your toxic metals are OK so the most likely thing is that you just have a copper deficiency and correcting that might make a big difference. Let me know how it goes.  John 

PS. Solgar makes a molybdenum supplement. If you can't get it locally, look online.

From Joann:
I am not taking Manganese, zinc, nor iodine because I thought
according to the supplement list I should not. I also
developed a goiter after I got off of the homeopathic
phosphorus (which I'm not sure if that's all that was
in there because he made up his own brews). I just
sent off for the molybdenum and the Lithium which I
plan to take every other day. Am I doing it right?
Thanks,
Joann

Hi Joann:
    You should add those minerals in when you can.  We know that iodine deficiency causes goiter, and since manganese is involved in the production of thyroid hormone, it's possible that a deficiency of that will also cause goiter.  Zinc is very important to take as is iron.  Lithium is probably not necessary and may only get deficient from constant overuse of table salt (sodium, which is just below lithium in the Periodic Table.) John

Shellie's analysis (July 6, 2001)

Shellie faxed me her hair analysis and told me that she'd like to share the analysis on the bulletin board. Following is her email to me, her hair analysis numbers, and my interpretation.

Hello John,

I recently found out I have graves disease and have found your site to be both informative and encouraging.   I have enjoyed reading the bulletin and hearing what others have to say about their experiences.

I have been on PTU for 7 weeks and have seen dramatic differences in my T4 levels.  I no longer have a racing heartbeat or experience heat intolerance however I have gained 8 lbs, which I'm not too happy about.

  Results:

  April 13-01       TSH      .03      lab range .35- 5.50

T4      20.8       lab range 4.5-12.0

after six weeks on 300mg of PTU the lab results:

June 22-01    TSH same

Free T4        1.47      lab range .61-1.76   ( I only knew

to ask for this because of your information)

        T4        10.6     lab range 4.5-12.0

        T3 Uptake    36    lab range 24-39

 

So as you can see I am very happy about the results and I am thankful to know what to test for.

I was hoping since I'm rather new at this that you would take a look at my hair analysis and give me some idea of how to proceed.  I do have a copy of your supplements list and also the "Success Story/Hair Analysis" bulletin dated April 4, 2001.

I guess at first glance I see the deficiencies in Manganese, Zinc, Chromium, and selenium but I'm thrown off by the high levels of copper and potassium.

The good/bad news is I can not get into see an endocrinologist until Sept. So I have some time to start the supplement program.  My Primary Physician has already said I can not stay on the medicine indefinitely and may have to go to the next step which I like so many of you am trying to avoid.

Your help would be greatly appreciated and I'd love to share this discussion with others on bulletin board. Once again thank you for the help you have already provided so many and I'm looking for any guidance you can give.

PS    Are you familiar with the Biotics Research Products -  and where in all of this do I find my Iodine Results? 

Should I be concerned about the low WBC in my blood work that indicates a viral infection? I'm feeling fine.  and finally have you done any work with the levels of toxic metals and how they could possibly relate to hyper/hypos.  As you can see from my hair analysis the aluminum is off the charts.

Thank You

 

Shellie's mineral analysis (Analytical Research Labs):

Calcium 140 (normal 40) (high)

Magnesium 11 (6) (high)

Sodium 72 (25) (high)

Potassium 105 (10) (high)

Iron 1.2 (3.5) (low)

Copper 3.9 (2.5) (high)

Manganese .05 (.20) (low)

Zinc 10 (20) (low)

Chromium .01 (.12) (low)

Selenium .038 (.18) (low)

Phosphorus 11 (16) (little low)

Lead .27 (ok)

Mercury .05 (ok)

Cadmium .04 (a little high)

Arsenic .012 (ok)

Aluminum 4.99 (high)

Nickel 1.28 (normal .1)(high)

Cobalt .012 (.04) (low)

Molybdenum .01 (.11) (low)

Lithium .007 (.2) (low)

 

Interpretation:

Shellie has somewhat complicated situation, since she has many very low minerals that are critically important and high copper.

Most hypers either have very low copper (.8-.12 range) or high copper. Shellie's high copper indicates that copper is not being used properly. This could be because of vitamin deficiencies, like B1, B2, niacin, B5, biotin, or PABA, or because other minerals that work with copper are very low (iron, zinc, chromium, molybdenum), or because of high levels of two copper antagonists (aluminum and nickel).

Most hypers have high levels of aluminum and I suspect that the lack of copper in the cells allows aluminum to accumulate. Shellie's high nickel is unusual. However, nickel, being right next to copper in the Periodic Table (nickel is element number 28, copper 29) is a direct antagonist to copper. Women often get high nickel from nickel plated jewelry (nickel plated posts on ear rings), or working with nickel plated equipment such as in the hairdressing industry). It's possible also that low copper metabolism allows nickel to accumulate and getting enough of the vitamins that work with copper will correct the high nickel problem.

Selenium is important, but it's possible that if Shellie takes selenium she might start converting more T4 to T3 and increase the hyper symptoms. It's difficult to predict but she should try some selenium to see if she can tolerate it. If not, she'll have to get her other minerals up and try again later.

Many hypers have low copper and high zinc, but Shellie has the opposite. It's possible that the copper is not working well because of her low zinc levels, so she'll need to try very small amounts of zinc to see whether this pushes her more hyper or slows down the hyper symptoms. The same is true for iron. Most hypers have to avoid iron at the beginning but she will need to try some iron to see if that helps her copper utilization.

Manganese and chromium work as a pair. When both of these minerals are low, both need to be supplemented. However, sometimes manganese can stimulate thyroid production, so it's best to start chromium first and then introduce manganese cautiously.

Molybdenum should also be tried. Solgar is the only company that I know that makes a molybdenum supplement and any store that carries that brand should be able to special order it for you.

The high levels of calcium, magnesium, sodium, and potassium can be misleading. These levels will come down, but often it's necessary to supplement even though the look high. I would try magnesium, since the cal/mag ratio is high. Avoid calcium foods (dairy) and use magnesium to keep the heart rate lower.

It's going to be tricky finding which minerals will be tolerated. Copper may need to be supplemented even though it looks high. Once you start taking the vitamins that help copper, the excess copper could get used up quite rapidly. You're going to have to experiment with all of these minerals to see which help and which make it worse. It's likely that you may not tolerate some of these minerals at the beginning but will tolerate them once some other minerals  increase. When you try minerals, introduce them one at a time. If you get a negative effect, that can offer hints about what you'll need to try next. Let me know what happens. John